TM Garret became a neo-nazi skinhead at a young age and then grew up to become a Grand Wizard of a KKK group based in Germany. One day though, he decided to cut ties and leave that life behind him.

VICE Met up with Garret to hear his story and understand what it means to be involved in — and leave — a white supremacist group.

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